"Luscious Liz" (lusciousliz)
08/24/2015 at 23:12 • Filed to: None
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"Luscious Liz" (lusciousliz)
08/24/2015 at 23:12 • Filed to: None | 1
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Closed cockpits won’t do anything. This was a freak accident, so was Massa and Henry Surtees Jr. I think we are up to a point were open wheel racing is as safe as it can be, things like that will keep happening. RIP Justin.
themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
> Luscious Liz
08/24/2015 at 23:16 |
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No. Closed cockpits would fix a lot of this. If those cars had closed cockpits, the structure of the cockpit would surely be large enough to deflect, stop, or at minimum slow down the nose section. Closed cockpits mean the windshield would’ve either stopped the spring or dissipated a lot of the energy before it hit massa. Closed cockpits do not guarantee safety, but in your examples, yes - they would have saved lives.
Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
> Luscious Liz
08/24/2015 at 23:18 |
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Closed cockpits made WEC cars safer. Same can be adapted to indy cars and F1 and other open wheel cars. Just because they were freak accidents doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to prevent them from happening
Shankems
> Luscious Liz
08/24/2015 at 23:26 |
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A super strong windscreen that ends just above a drivers head alleviates this and wouldn’t have escape problems.
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Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
> Shankems
08/24/2015 at 23:33 |
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Unless it goes all the way back it doesn’t have the same structural rigidity and protection. Cause if something hits at say the top where the windscreen would be thinner it could still shatter the windscreen and hit the driver
Flavien Vidal
> Luscious Liz
08/24/2015 at 23:47 |
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The closed cockpit not openning well argument is not really a problem...
Tetsuya Oya stayed for 90 seconds at 800 degrees in his car before being dragged out and he survived.
On an oval track, he would have been stucked in fire for less than 30 seconds for sure. Also, if AMG managed to do well with it’s SLS gullwing doors emergency roll over openning, I’m sure some kind of beefed up version can exist for open wheelers...
These cars are called openwheelers, not open cockpit. Closing the damn thing shouldn’t be a problem at all...
Tetsuya Ota today...
wiffleballtony
> Luscious Liz
08/24/2015 at 23:50 |
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Not to be glib, but life is fatal.
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themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
> Shankems
08/25/2015 at 00:07 |
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Adding on to sampsonite, without doors, you actually have started to create an escape problem. You have now cinched up their “hole” to escape and the bodywork deforming could make that even smaller. Closed cockpit cars have doors, windows, hatches, or some sort of emergency exit in some way, shape, or form. Even if you have to cut hinges or something off of a door, I think it would be safer/easier than having to cut away bodywork right next to a driver. Maybe jaws of life could be used but in open cockpit formula racers, drivers are shrinkwrapped into their car. With really high windows and bodywork (to support the windscreen during moments of high g-force) but still no roof or doors, you’re in a bit of a “worst of both worlds” situation.
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Shankems
> Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero
08/25/2015 at 09:23 |
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I figured the windscreen without going fully enclosed would rim the drivers compartment giving a little bit more strength. I am sure there are some aerospace composites that could be found that would be a serviceable job. The drivers are still wearing helmets, anything else between them and an object helps, even if it just serves to deflect the object just off the drivers head.